At Home Watching the Primary Results
1:05 am
Corey: I do think John McCain is the only Republican I'd vote for, tho he scares me on his views towards the war and I think he's honest to a fault. Romney reminds of Kodos (and/or Kang) from the Simpsons, with Huckabee appearing to be a robot that escaped Disney's Hall of Presidents. I mean, Christ, no one on that campaign even remotely entertained the idea of "I (heart) Huckabee" bumper stickers and posters? A whole movie with your name in the title and you don't utilize the marketing capabilities?
Not really the savvy I want in a president, guitar skills or no.
12:50 am
Corey: It should be noted that I'm participating from a cabin in the Adirondacks, with no TV and an internet connection built from coat hangers, pine sap and a complex series of cardboard tubes...
The NYTimes online is saying Hillary has California. How nice for her and her creepiness. Sorry, but she reminds me of my mom when she'd catch me smoking pot in the garage.
12:39 am
Corey (Fakerockstar.com): What? Huh? I'm up, I'm up. Primaries? How's David Dukakis doin'?
12:36 am
I just switched from CNN to MSNBC. What's wrong with me? I should have been watching MSNBC all night. They have Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann.
12:02 am
We are the ones that we've been waiting for.
— Barack Obama
11:59 pm
Barack just said something revolutionary by treating threats on our well-being — terrorism and climate change notably — as one. That's really interesting. Never heard anyone put it that way. He's also speaking like he's already the candidate. He's not talking big. It's just the weight of his message. He's not speaking as someone who thinks it's all up on the air. I love that.
11:40 pm
Jesus Christ, John McCain's mother looks great for 96 years old!
11:31 pm
Huckabee has Georgia. Ugh. I never thought I'd find myself rooting for Mitt Romney. (Side bar: Rachel Maddow cracks me up every time she calls Mitt Romney "Mittens.")
11:26 pm
While watching CNN tonight, I've seen clean coal commercials several times and, miraculously enough,I just saw a clean oil commercial. Really? At the risk of being completely naive, I hope Barack Obama wins and asks Al Gore to run with him.
11:12 pm
Here's something else that came up on the show last night. Do you think Barack or Hillary would run in the VP slot with the front runner? The consensus last night seemed to be that they wouldn't, but I disagree. I, frankly, think an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket would be incredibly strong and great for both of them as well as the country. I do feel that Hillary is a little more "all or nothing" than Barack is, but still...this is ultimately about serving the country, right? Could either of them, in good conscience, turn down an offer to run as VP with the other?
11:01
Ok, that shit just gave me happy feet. Hillary thanked her mom who was born before women were allowed to vote and who was watching her daughter on stage tonight. That's pretty damn awesome. Hillary is way too centrist and establishment for me, but that was ultimately a good speech. Waiting for Barack!!!
10:53 pm
Hillary is speaking. So far she's the only speech to mention the tornados in the south. I like the comments on green solutions and stem cells she just made. It's as though she's decided to try to remind people that she's a liberal. Hillary, be a fucking liberal. Not a politician. Still she seems more genuine than Huckabee. By the way, Huckabee gave a shout out to U of A with a "Roll Tide Roll." I hope all you Auburn alum and students who voted for him remember that.
10:50 pm
I voted for Barack Obama today. I was already planning on voting for him, but I heard one of the best rationales for that vote last night at Shoot the Messenger. Our guest Rachel Maddow spoke about a comment on her Air America blog that stated — I'm paraphrasing — "I'm voting for Barack Obama not because I think he will be completely different from Hillary once he's in office, but because he inspires people." I've been trying to put my finger on what it was, really, about Obama and I think that's it. The first vote I was ever old enough to cast was in 1992 for Bill Clinton and it was because I felt inspired. Did he always represent me properly? Certainly not. But that feeling of casting a vote and knowing that it was part of a change in this country was unequivocal. I'm 15 years older now, hopefully wiser, and I feel that optimism again. I feel that drive to do something, to be a part of something, to make a difference. That may ultimately be the best, the most we can expect from our elected officials. That their example drives us to be our own example.
Ok, so here we are. My home state of Alabama is going for Obama. Way to go, Alabama! I just got off the phone with my friend Lizz, whose home state of Minnesota is going for Obama. Hillary still seems to be ahead but Obama is doing very well. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Interestingly, Alabama and Minnesota also went for Huckabee. Huckabee just spoke and I felt like I wanted to tear my own face off. If you look at his speech and the one Romney just delivered, and merely look at the manner of speaking, Huckabee seems completely false and Romney seems genuine...albeit from another planet. I also fine the fear talk from Romney very interesting. For conservatives, it always seems to come back to this idea of fear over losing something that we supposedly once had. Whereas progressives tend to talk about the future, doing better, loving more, learning more, understanding more. That speaks to me. Fear does not.
Other thoughts: McCain is doing really well. My optimism says that if McCain and Obama get the nominations that says something very important about this country. That we are less conservative than we once were. I'm not a McCain apologist, like most moderates. I respect his service to this country and his determination in the face of being an outsider, but he's not a progressive. I am now told by both the Romney and Huckabee campaigns that he's also not a conservative. So if he wins the nomination, I think that says something really interesting about us as a nation. Let me go on record now as saying that if we are truly less conservative than we used to be, that is a GOOD thing.
More thoughts as more results come in and more wine is consumed.
Corey: I do think John McCain is the only Republican I'd vote for, tho he scares me on his views towards the war and I think he's honest to a fault. Romney reminds of Kodos (and/or Kang) from the Simpsons, with Huckabee appearing to be a robot that escaped Disney's Hall of Presidents. I mean, Christ, no one on that campaign even remotely entertained the idea of "I (heart) Huckabee" bumper stickers and posters? A whole movie with your name in the title and you don't utilize the marketing capabilities?
Not really the savvy I want in a president, guitar skills or no.
12:50 am
Corey: It should be noted that I'm participating from a cabin in the Adirondacks, with no TV and an internet connection built from coat hangers, pine sap and a complex series of cardboard tubes...
The NYTimes online is saying Hillary has California. How nice for her and her creepiness. Sorry, but she reminds me of my mom when she'd catch me smoking pot in the garage.
12:39 am
Corey (Fakerockstar.com): What? Huh? I'm up, I'm up. Primaries? How's David Dukakis doin'?
12:36 am
I just switched from CNN to MSNBC. What's wrong with me? I should have been watching MSNBC all night. They have Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann.
12:02 am
We are the ones that we've been waiting for.
— Barack Obama
11:59 pm
Barack just said something revolutionary by treating threats on our well-being — terrorism and climate change notably — as one. That's really interesting. Never heard anyone put it that way. He's also speaking like he's already the candidate. He's not talking big. It's just the weight of his message. He's not speaking as someone who thinks it's all up on the air. I love that.
11:40 pm
Jesus Christ, John McCain's mother looks great for 96 years old!
11:31 pm
Huckabee has Georgia. Ugh. I never thought I'd find myself rooting for Mitt Romney. (Side bar: Rachel Maddow cracks me up every time she calls Mitt Romney "Mittens.")
11:26 pm
While watching CNN tonight, I've seen clean coal commercials several times and, miraculously enough,I just saw a clean oil commercial. Really? At the risk of being completely naive, I hope Barack Obama wins and asks Al Gore to run with him.
11:12 pm
Here's something else that came up on the show last night. Do you think Barack or Hillary would run in the VP slot with the front runner? The consensus last night seemed to be that they wouldn't, but I disagree. I, frankly, think an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket would be incredibly strong and great for both of them as well as the country. I do feel that Hillary is a little more "all or nothing" than Barack is, but still...this is ultimately about serving the country, right? Could either of them, in good conscience, turn down an offer to run as VP with the other?
11:01
Ok, that shit just gave me happy feet. Hillary thanked her mom who was born before women were allowed to vote and who was watching her daughter on stage tonight. That's pretty damn awesome. Hillary is way too centrist and establishment for me, but that was ultimately a good speech. Waiting for Barack!!!
10:53 pm
Hillary is speaking. So far she's the only speech to mention the tornados in the south. I like the comments on green solutions and stem cells she just made. It's as though she's decided to try to remind people that she's a liberal. Hillary, be a fucking liberal. Not a politician. Still she seems more genuine than Huckabee. By the way, Huckabee gave a shout out to U of A with a "Roll Tide Roll." I hope all you Auburn alum and students who voted for him remember that.
10:50 pm
I voted for Barack Obama today. I was already planning on voting for him, but I heard one of the best rationales for that vote last night at Shoot the Messenger. Our guest Rachel Maddow spoke about a comment on her Air America blog that stated — I'm paraphrasing — "I'm voting for Barack Obama not because I think he will be completely different from Hillary once he's in office, but because he inspires people." I've been trying to put my finger on what it was, really, about Obama and I think that's it. The first vote I was ever old enough to cast was in 1992 for Bill Clinton and it was because I felt inspired. Did he always represent me properly? Certainly not. But that feeling of casting a vote and knowing that it was part of a change in this country was unequivocal. I'm 15 years older now, hopefully wiser, and I feel that optimism again. I feel that drive to do something, to be a part of something, to make a difference. That may ultimately be the best, the most we can expect from our elected officials. That their example drives us to be our own example.
Ok, so here we are. My home state of Alabama is going for Obama. Way to go, Alabama! I just got off the phone with my friend Lizz, whose home state of Minnesota is going for Obama. Hillary still seems to be ahead but Obama is doing very well. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Interestingly, Alabama and Minnesota also went for Huckabee. Huckabee just spoke and I felt like I wanted to tear my own face off. If you look at his speech and the one Romney just delivered, and merely look at the manner of speaking, Huckabee seems completely false and Romney seems genuine...albeit from another planet. I also fine the fear talk from Romney very interesting. For conservatives, it always seems to come back to this idea of fear over losing something that we supposedly once had. Whereas progressives tend to talk about the future, doing better, loving more, learning more, understanding more. That speaks to me. Fear does not.
Other thoughts: McCain is doing really well. My optimism says that if McCain and Obama get the nominations that says something very important about this country. That we are less conservative than we once were. I'm not a McCain apologist, like most moderates. I respect his service to this country and his determination in the face of being an outsider, but he's not a progressive. I am now told by both the Romney and Huckabee campaigns that he's also not a conservative. So if he wins the nomination, I think that says something really interesting about us as a nation. Let me go on record now as saying that if we are truly less conservative than we used to be, that is a GOOD thing.
More thoughts as more results come in and more wine is consumed.
posted by Carol at 10:37 PM
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